For our 7th Q&A, we decided to ask some select members of the community, How should cheaters be dealt with? Should they be permanently banned? Here’s what they had to say!
<degrave> It is not efficient to ban a cheaters by single IP or mask, a cheater can have dynamic IP or you can ban innocent people. You can kick him with 4 hours ban and after he connect again show some warning to a server admins that this guy cheated before and be prepared to kick him if he do it again.
<jawer> Yes and additionally all their names should be spread. Maybe you could also ruin their families and stuff.
<Sativa> Yes I think cheaters should be permanently banned because they obviously gain an unfair advantage with their aim/triggerbot or wh, or whatever it is.
<bandandit> It’s rather unfortunate that this question doesn’t have an easy answer. In my humble opinion there are two types of cheaters:
The first type are those who are either just beginners or are too young / immature and don’t understand the extent to which they are harming the game. Maybe they don’t realize there’s a community of people who devote themselves to becoming legitimate pros. Or maybe they are just naïve and don’t understand what they are doing wrong. I think these “cheaters” deserve some leniency and with a little guidance could become one of the next great members of the community. But it’ll take some time and effort from server admins, but might be worth it in the long run.
The second type are those who should know better but have absolutely no regard to the game or community. These are people who are writing and sharing scripts for malicious purposes. These “cheaters” which are also easy to spot, have no place in the game or community and should be permanently banned.
<Buck> I believe the first time a player is caught cheating, they shall be kicked for the standard 4 hours, after being given a warning to stop cheating. If this player has been caught a second time, he should be kicked again, for the standard 4 hours, without warning. The second kick will mark the second and final warning. If a player reaches a third time cheating, this means that the player will show no signs of stopping. The consequences given after the 2nd time cheating should be this. 3rd time – 1 month ban. 4th time – 6 month ban. 5th time – pban (as far as it can go (at least 1 year)). Some exceptions however: If this player has access to vpn, no matter how many ip’s he can access, he should be pbanned after his 5th offense, even if it occurs within one hour. 5 chances/warnings are plenty enough to get the message across. But I don’t agree with kicking on sight should occur until this player reaches his 5th offense.
<pix> IMO, they should be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. People like Markku and pisto have been a huge benefit for the community in the long run, while others like for example Bounty are just major shitkids only interested in fucking up other’s experience for their own entertainment. So the way we do it at the moment is a good way to do it, I think. A perma-ban for people like Bounty and other cheaters which were around earlier shouldn’t be out of the question, though.
<greenadiss> As an ogros administrator I treat cheaters pretty seriously and responsibly and try to be 100% sure that the person was cheating. Permanent bans aren’t really permanent if you can disable them and remove.
All cheaters have their own reasons to cheat. Some like to discover stuff and try every possible way to play better, doesn’t matter if it’s cheating. Some just try to do some experiments with their knowledges of coding. But, I believe, some of them can grow up of this silly and cognitive age, like all kids do. But Not All. There are always some who can’t or don’t want to realize it. Who try to convince everyone in their cleanness and innocence when there is a proof of their cheating.
Still, there are people who deserve to have a chance (from time to time) like once a year or 6 months. That’s my own experience. If someone comes to ask for a second chance, why not? You can always re-activate the ban but what if the person has really changed and wants to be clean? That’s why I believe you can’t ban cheaters permanently, it’s too radical way. You need to give them chances from time to time.
<jay_red> “Cheaters Losers” – Dark*Star #2014.
P.S. Of course, there are exceptions – people who keep cheating without showing any improvement. They don’t deserve a chance to get unbanned.
Seems to be a lot of different point of views on this question.
What’s your opinion? Tell us in the comments below!